
| If you take your time and be methodical, there is no reason why you cannot trace and repair ignition faults. It does help if you have parts to fit as replacements where you suspect a certain part may be at fault. Tools needed apart from the general screwdrivers, sockets and spanners will be a flywheel holding and removal tool and test light set up. |

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In this the ignition section I am going to
run through finding faults in your system, primarily no
spark. I shall also latter on try and explain how to set
and adjust your timing!
80% of all ignition faults are caused by either
spark plug, plug cap or the H.T. lead. So you first job
is to take the plug out of the cylinder head, re fit it
onto the cap. Place the spark plug onto the engine casing
at some point. Now (with the ignition on of course) kick
the engine over, and check for a spark.
If you do have a good strong spark at this
point, no need to go any further, your problem lies else
where!
The spark at the plug should be visible between
the electrodes, if it "tracks off" elsewhere onto
the plug or engine, replace the plug and try again
Now presuming you are still with us because
you have no spark, the next job is around the other side
of the machine. Your junction box, or rectifier where all
the wires meet is your next step. Find the green that comes
from the magneto, or flywheel, unplug it again hold it onto
the engine and kick over. This may sound hard, but while
kicking over, lean over the machine to hold the wire onto
the engine, or get some help!
OK if you have a spark here your problem
lies either with the cap, plug lead or H.T. coil. The only
true way to establish which one the problem is occurring
with, is to replace the items one by one. You can eliminate
the plug and cap, by simply unscrewing the plug cap from
the lead. It will in most cases twist off as there is a
self tapping like screw within the cap which allows the
cap to screw onto the lead. Again with the cap unscrewed,
place the end of the lead as near onto the engine as you
can and kick over. If you now have a spark, replace the
cap and for the cost of it the plug as well.
If you still have no spark when you have tried
the lead, the problem will be the lead or coil, least expensive
is to start with the lead, and repeat the process again.
Still no luck the problem will be the coil, but just before
you rush out and purchase a new coil, is the earth wire
between the coil - frame- and mag housing in place and making
good contact?
OK back to you have no spark at the green
of the mag housing, this leaves the stator plate itself,
presuming you trace the wires back into the mag housing
and they look undamaged
98% of faults with the stator plate will be
the points and condenser. Check that the points are opening
at the firing point. There should be a arrow mark on the
flywheel, line this up with a notch on the mag housing at
around 12 o clock position, you may need to clean the mag
to be able to see it.
Just as a footnote some 4 pole models do not
have these markings, just check to see if the points are
opening. Some Spanish models may have two marks, the one
to the right will be TDC, the one to the left will be the
firing point, this is when the points begin to open
When the arrow and the notch line up, this
is called the firing point, the contact breaker points should
now begin to open. If the points do not begin to open at
this point they will need to be adjusted.
To adjusting the timing you are almost
certainly going to need a flywheel puller and preferably
a flywheel holding tool as well as a test light
So you will need a test light or you can quite
easily make one yourself! This is easy, all that is needed
is a bulb socket with two connections, power and earth (a
car one is fine) and a 6V bulb. Two wire will need to come
from the bulb/socket, one goes to power one to earth. Next
is just a length of wire to be able to complete the circuit.
If you Lambretta is a non battery model, you will need a
battery to power your equipment! Going back to the bulb
socket I actually use an old headlight main socket that
had a couple of bad contacts elsewhere, all you need to
do is get the bulb to light up by providing power and and
earth, and you have your test light.
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On the left, is a very quick diagram on how to rig
up your test system for checking the timing. |
Now the light on the bulb should be on to
start with if you have correct connections. What we are
looking for is the bulb to go brighter when the points start
to open. The point at which this should happen (the firing
point) is 23 degrees on Li SX TV models, and 21 degrees
on GP models, a dial gauge is the only way to measure accurately
this point if it is not already marked.
If you need to find the firing point because
it is not marked, or you think it may be incorrect (say
in and engine rebuild situation) first off you need to find
TDC. This is when the piston is at its furthest point of
upwards travel. i.e. it will not go higher, and just before
it starts to come back down again!
The most accurate way to find this is by
use of a dial gauge with the cylinder head off, some gauges
will allow you to find it through the plug hole, but many
of the one's available may not allow you to get the tool
far enough inside to be able to use it. When you are happy
you have found TDC, I tend to make a mark on the mag housing
which meets with the arrow on the flywheel. If you do this
(making sure you are happy that you are at TDC) it merely
saves you time finding it again should your adjustments
go wrong and you need to re check things!
Now you need a dial gauge, which are quite
cheap and available from just about all motorcycle and scooter
shops. The dial gauge simply is a round instrument with
degree points marked around it. So you line up zero degrees
with your TDC mark, and then go anti clock wise around the
gauge and find your timing point, remember 23 degrees Li
SX TV and 21 GP!
Now make the second mark on the mag housing,
you now have your firing point
The whole point to this is coming now! The
second notch in your mag housing you have just made, is
the point that when the arrow on your flywheel reaches it,
the points should start to open, you test light system /
set-up, will get brighter
It should get bright exactly on the point
the arrow and timing mark line up, too early of after they
have passed we need to adjust them.
Again another footnote, D, LD and earlier machines have
a moveable cam within the centre part of the flywheel. These
cams need to be full held open by you to correctly check
the timing. You see the LD has an automatic retard advance
system. Retarded at kick over speeds for ease of starting
(cams closed) the system then as the flywheel spins faster,
forces the cams out, thus advancing the ignition to achieve
better top end performance (yes on an LD!)
Now where was I, oh yes - lets say your bulb
does not get brighter at the firing point, presuming you
have all your measurements correct, i.e. TDC and firing
point, the next step is to adjust your points
First before we do this, you will need to
check that your points are in good condition, clean and
the two contacts meet "square on" together. If
they are not either replace or with a small piece of sandpaper,
file the two surfaces until they are flat and clean.
If you need to replace you will need to tell
your dealer the make of flywheel and type of points as well
as an puller and holding tool), when you have the flywheel
off, simply undo the centre screw of the contact points
and they will begin to become free. You will need a soldiering
iron, to undo the wire, and to re solder it back on. Simply
fit the points in the reverse way that you take them off.
Then only real point is that the wire you solder on, should
not stick up as there is very little room when you put the
flywheel back on, and this wire may rub against the flywheel
causing it to catch and rub away the outer casing. At least
miss-fire will occur at worst you will loose all spark
Now you have your points renovated or renewed,
time to set them up. Again using the method to check the
operation at firing point, you will need to mess around
quite a bit now unless you are lucky and get it right first
time
Adjustment is made by undoing the centre screw,
moving the points on a axis slightly and then nip the screw
back up and re-check. I cannot tell you which way you should
turn the points as it is trial and error, but I can tell
you that you will need to make only very small adjustments
in this way, to affect the firing point in a big way. Move
it very slightly and keep re-checking is the best way
Now if you are defiantly sure you cannot achieve
your correct timing point after completely adjusting to
both directions the points can turn, you will need to twist
the stator plate around very slightly. This is done by undoing
the three retaining nuts, and slightly moving the stator
plate around. re-tighten this and start the process again
of adjusting your points. Still no luck, turn the stator
the other way.!
Electronic system, just a quick note,
but these very rarely go out of adjustment to firing point
once set correctly. The way to check them is, there will
be two marks on a window of the flywheel. Next look for
the little black box on the stator plate, again this has
two (nearly always white) lines on it. When the window passes
over the black box you are looking for the marks to line
up with each other. Adjustment is made by undoing and moving
around the stator plate, but as I said this rarely needs
doing!
Back to I still have no spark next
up is to change your condenser. Buy the correct one for
your machine again as like the contact points, state the
make of magneto when ordering
condenser is very simple, just undo the one
retaining screw, un solder the wire on the top, take out,
put in the new one. Re-solder the wire back on and refit
the screw Done!
Finally if you are sure you have made all
the correct replacements and adjustments, and you still
have no spark, go over everything one more time, do not
pass go and do not collect £200
And still you have no spark, the problem lies
with the low tension coil on the stator plate itself. Now
you can replace this, but if you are happy to do this yourself
then you are happy enough not to need instructions on how
to do it. It is far better to have your dealer replace the
LT coil or exchange (if they offer this service) the stator
for a refurbished one. Just remember that stator plates
have not been manufactured for around thirty years now,
they are becoming thinner on the ground (usable ones anyway),
so if your dealer cannot do this for you, an electronic
kit may be the only option, itself a very good idea!
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